Bylo vylodění v Británii v roce 1940 možné?

ja_62 napsal v č. 2887:
"silám“ Kriegsmarine, viz. 2513 — jeden těžký a dva lehké křižníky, plus „až deset“ torpédoborců"

Algernon napsal v č. 2532:
"silám“ Kriegsmarine, viz. 2513 — jeden těžký a dva lehké křižníky, plus „až deset“ torpédoborců) "

SK napsal v 2883: hladinové sily Kriegsmarine, ktoré by mali vo svojích radách niekoľko krížnikov a množstvo menších lodí...

Glynwed napsal v č. 2885:
"Hmmm...Oostende a Le Havre jsou od sebe cca 300 km, Folkestone od Brightonu cca 150 km...to znamená že lodě KM se podél francouzského pobřeží sjedou někam do prostoru Boulogne-Calais (50-60 km), tam přeplují La Manche a pak se podél pobřeží Anglie zase rozvinou na své pláže...geniální tah !!! "

Vzhľadom na to, že úžina je pomerne úzka, tak by to nebol problém...konvoje by sa nachádzali v páse širokom len niekoľko desiatok (50-60)km...

ja_62 napsal v č. 2879:
"JAK by se LW dozvěděla, kde má konvoje ochraňovat?"

ja_62 napsal v č. 2877:
"Při pohyblivosti torpédoborců by se mohla RN rychle vrátit do Kanálu, a musela by sice časem doplňovat palivo atd., ale nemůžeš předpokládat, že VŠECHNY torpédoborce RN budou v jeden moment doplňovat palivo, takže německé transporty přeplujou. Navíc i KM by svými evolucemi přicházela o zásoby paliva."

Glynwed napsal v č. 2880,2881:
"Ano, asi tuším co jsi chtěl naznačit s těmi kluzáky... "

SK napsal v č. 2865:
"Okrem toho ULTRA mala v 1940 viac "pod kontrolou" Luftwafe ako KM, takže je pravdepodobné, že by správy o pohybe konvojov britom zostali nerozlúštené..."

ja_62 napsal v č. 2869:
"případně navíc za použití tebou navrhovaných zvláštních pohybů do poloviny Kanálu, zpět, zase do poloviny a když tam nebude RN, tak až k cíli..."

[4.24] But the barbarians, upon perceiving the design of the Romans, sent forward their cavalry and charioteers, a class of warriors of whom it is their practice to make great use in their battles, and following with the rest of their forces, endeavored to prevent our men landing. In this was the greatest difficulty, for the following reasons, namely, because our ships, on account of their great size, could be stationed only in deep water; and our soldiers, in places unknown to them, with their hands embarrassed, oppressed with a large and heavy weight of armor, had at the same time to leap from the ships, stand amid the waves, and encounter the enemy; whereas they, either on dry ground, or advancing a little way into the water, free in all their limbs in places thoroughly known to them, could confidently throw their weapons and spur on their horses, which were accustomed to this kind of service. Dismayed by these circumstances and altogether untrained in this mode of battle, our men did not all exert the same vigor and eagerness which they had been wont to exert in engagements on dry ground.
[4.25] When Caesar observed this, he ordered the ships of war, the appearance of which was somewhat strange to the barbarians and the motion more ready for service, to be withdrawn a little from the transport vessels, and to be propelled by their oars, and be stationed toward the open flank of the enemy, and the enemy to be beaten off and driven away, with slings, arrows, and engines: which plan was of great service to our men; for the barbarians being startled by the form of our ships and the motions of our oars and the nature of our engines, which was strange to them, stopped, and shortly after retreated a little. And while our men were hesitating [whether they should advance to the shore], chiefly on account of the depth of the sea, he who carried the eagle of the tenth legion, after supplicating the gods that the matter might turn out favorably to the legion, exclaimed, "Leap, fellow soldiers, unless you wish to betray your eagle to the enemy. I, for my part, will perform my duty to the commonwealth and my general."

Glynwed napsal v č. 2870:
"Jen bych chtěl upozornit, že je opravdu velmi těžké zasáhnout Ju 52 letícího ve výšce cca 200-300 m při minimální rychlosti a v přímém vodorovném letu například z pušky, kulometu nebo Boforsu. Nehledě na to že při výsadku by skupiny nalétávaly v sevřeném tvaru po 12-ti letadlech."

ja_62 napsal v č. 2871:
"...i on si postavil specializované lodě..../jde o druhou výpravu/"

ja_62 napsal v č. 2871:
"Jde o to, že Ceasar sice překonával odpor, ale nemusel počítat s žádnými námořními nebo dokonce leteckými silami Gallů. Oštěpy a šípy těžko poškodíš transortní lodě tak abys zabránil vylodění."

he(Caesar)himself, with five legions and a number of horse, equal to that which he was leaving on the continent, set sail at sun-set, and [though for a time] borne forward by a gentle south-west wind, he did not maintain his course, in consequence of the wind dying away about midnight, and being carried on too far by the tide, when the sun rose, espied Britain passed on his left. Then, again, following the change of tide, he urged on with the oars that he might make that part of the island in which he had discovered the preceding summer, that there was the best landing-place, and in this affair the spirit of our soldiers was very much to be extolled; for they with the transports and heavy ships, the labor of rowing not being [for a moment] discontinued, equaled the speed of the ships of war. All the ships reached Britain nearly at mid-day; nor was there seen a [single] enemy in that place, but, as Caesar afterward found from some prisoners, though large bodies of troops had assembled there, yet being alarmed by the great number of our ships, more than eight hundred of which, including the ships of the preceding year, and those private vessels which each had built for his own convenience, had appeared at one time, they had quitted the coast and concealed themselves among the higher points.
[5.9] Caesar, having disembarked his army and chosen a convenient place for the camp, when he discovered from the prisoners in what part the forces of the enemy had lodged themselves, having left ten cohorts and 300 horse at the sea, to be a guard to the ships, hastens to the enemy, at the third watch, fearing the less for the ships, for this reason because he was leaving them fastened at anchor upon an even and open shore; and he placed Q. Atrius over the guard of the ships. He himself, having advanced by night about twelve miles, espied the forces of the enemy. They, advancing to the river with their cavalry and chariots from the higher ground, began to annoy our men and give battle.

O válce galské V,8-9

SK napsal v č. 2857:
"Vhodnosť prepravných lodí nie je životne dôležitá, však ako by sa potom vylodil napr. Ceasar v Británií, že?"

My(pozemní vojsko) jsme na vylodění učinili stejné přípravy jako Julius Caesar, ostatní jsme ponechali námořnictvu a letectvu.

...commands the lieutenants whom he appointed over the legions to take care that during the winter as many ships as possible should be built, and the old repaired. He plans the size and shape of them. For dispatch of lading, and for drawing them on shore, he makes them a little lower than those which we have been accustomed to use in our sea; and that so much the more, because he knew that, on account of the frequent changes of the tide, less swells occurred there; for the purpose of transporting burdens and a great number of horses, [he makes them] a little broader than those which we use in other seas. All these he orders to be constructed for lightness and expedition, to which object their lowness contributes greatly

O válce galské V.1,